Primer Fields视频作者在BBS上的留言

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作者:tonekit

I am the guy who made the Primer Fields video. Sorry for the length of this post, but is has to be long in order to address the issues I am seeing in some of the comments here. I just have time to make this post here and then back to work on the next videos and a paper for submission that covers my research. I hope to have PF2 up by Feb. 1. I will not be able to respond to any questions or comments here. I may read them and then address them in my upcoming videos for all to see and learn from.

我就是制作了<初子场域>视频的那个人。抱歉，接下来的帖子可能有点长，但为了阐述清楚问题我必须这么做。我现在正好有时间来发这个帖，然后紧接着制作初子场域视频的第二部和发表一篇关于我的研究的论文。我希望能到 2 月 1 号前发表初子场域视频的第二部。我将不会在这里回应任何关于这个理论的疑问和评论。我可能会阅读它们并在接下来的视频中回应这些疑问和评论，以便所有人都能看见并学习。

Regarding intrinsic magnetic fields. All matter has intrinsic magnetic fields to it. Research this. All I did was change the shape of the source of the intrinsic magnetic fields. My main focus of my work has NOT been astrophysics, but physics at the atomic and sub-atomic level. The particles of matter at the LHC are driven around the LHC by MAGNETIC FIELDS. They are able to do this because of the intrinsic magnetic fields in all matter. Think this through carefully. It is based on repeatably proven science fact and experiments. Magnetic fields are intrinsic to all matter structures and that is undeniable fact. Trying to prove where they come from would be like asking me to prove water is wet. Think this through.

提到物质的固有磁场。所有物质都有固有磁场。研究它！我所做的只是改变了这个固有磁场的形状。我工作的主要关注点不是天文物理，而是原子物理或亚原子物理级别的研究。在 LHC(大型强子对撞机)中运行并碰撞的物质粒子是由磁场驱动的。他们能这样做，完全是由于所有物质都有固有磁场。仔细思考这点！这是被可重复的实验事实证明了的。所有物质都有固有磁场，这是无可争议的事实。试图去验证这些磁场究竟来自哪里，就好像在验证水为什么会是湿的一样。仔细思考这点！

They are there and I don't have to prove that as it is already accepted as fact. If you think that they can be electrically generated just on what we find in space, then I challenge you to prove it and not just say it.This is what true scientists do, they prove their statements. In six years of experiments I find zero evidence that these intrinsic magnetic fields are driven or generated by external electrical currents. I have run many many experiments without my magnetic emitters and I have seen zero evidence of this happening. If you go back and look at Birkleland's experiments you will notice that he had to put a source of a magnetic field into his sphere to find his Birkeland currents. No magnetic field no Birkeland currents. So the magnetic fields have to be there before any electricity is provided. Therefore the electricity did not form the magnetic fields and without magnetic fields you get no Birkeland currents.

它们(固有磁场)就在那里并且我不必去验证这个已经被当作事实来接受了的事情。如果你认为它们(物质的固有磁场)可以由电来生成，那么我向你挑战:你去证明它，而不是只动动嘴。这是一个真正的科学家做的事情，他们会证明自己的声明。经过六年多的实验，我没有发现任何证据来证明：这些固有磁场是由外部电流产生的。我做了非常非常多的实验，如果没有磁场发射器，那么也就没有任何现象会产生。如果你去看看伯克兰(Kristian Olaf Birkeland)的实验(terrella experiment)，你会发现他不得不在他的圆球周围放一个磁场，只有这样做才能产生伯克兰电流(Birkeland currents)。没有磁场，也就没有伯克兰电流。所以，磁场必须在电流提供之前存在。因此，电不能产生磁并且没有磁场也就没有伯克兰电流。

The EUT is mostly correct and absolutely more correct than current mainstream AP. But there is no proof as to the source of the electricity.I am very aware of magneto hydrodynamics and in fact my theories use it, but you still have to prove that MHD is the real source and I see no evidence for that when it comes to externally powered stars etc. In fact if you carefully observe my experiments you will see the variance between my electrically driven plasma formation and the formations in space. They are NOT the same. They are similar in that the plasma reveals the shape of the fields. The steel ball experiments I show in the videos also do this WITHOUT electricity. I do this to show that electricity is NOT the driver of the formations we see in space, but in fact is produced by the formations we see in space. I have to be careful in how I present this evidence because I have working technology based on these theories and I have patents in the works. But in PF2 I will present the mechanism by which electricity is produced by the Sun.I DO NOT AGREE with the current mainstream view of the Sun as being internally fusion powered and I find that all evidence and hard data point directly away from this concept. So I do understand the EUT frustrations with the blindness in the mainstream. But I am not the mainstream. So do not try and say things against what I am saying until you can prove it. That is what I did. I kept my mouth closed until I had hard repeatable data.

EUT(Electric Universe Theory,电宇宙理论)绝大部分是正确的并且比目前主流的 AP(Atomic Physics,原子物理)理论更正确。但是没有证据表明电的来源。我非常关心磁流体力学，事实上我的理论中使用了它，但是你仍然需要证明MHD(Magnetohydrodynamics，磁流体)是真正的来源。在观察外部驱动的恒星时，我没有看到任何证据表明这点。事实上，如果你仔细观察我的实验，你会看到我的外加电极驱动的等离子形态和太空中的形态是有区别的。它们绝不相同！它们只是在等离子显示了磁场外形方面是相似的。我做的那个钢球实验，同样是喷射了物质，但却不必外加电极。我做这个实验是为了说明：电并没有驱动并运作我们在太空中看到的形态，事实上电是被这种形态给制造出来的。我不得不谨慎的在实验中演示这个证据，因为我有相关的专利科技是基于这个理论的。但是在<初子场域 2>中，我将会演示这种机制，太阳就是通过这种机制来产生电流的。我绝不赞同当前主流界认为的，太阳是被内部的核聚变驱动并运行的理论，并且有明显的观测数据违背这一理论。所以，我非常能理解 EUT 工作者不被主流界接受时的沮丧心情。但我不是主流界的。所以，在你不能证明自己观点是否正确时，请不要试图说一些针对我理论的话，除非你能实验验证自己的观点。这就是我的工作方式。在没有明显可重复数据支持时，我通常会紧闭我的嘴。

But I do find that the Sun is fusion powered from the outside. Find the highest temperature and you have the place where fusion is greatest.Simple logic. Then as to the EUT, If the Sun were externally electrically powered we would not find these incredible temperature variances between the surface of the Sun and the corona-sphere. It would all be pretty much the same temperature. This is simple logic, backed by experiments. So in an externally powered Sun you have to explain the mechanism for the Solar interior being 5000K and the hottest areas in the corona-sphere being over 2 million K. IN fact you have to provide a mechanism for the interior of the Sun to be cooled as it is surrounded by the much hotter corona-sphere. That mechanism I cannot prove, but I do have a couple of ideas that I will expound on in my videos. Too much to discuss here.

但是我确实发现了太阳是在外部聚变的事实。找到了温度最高的地方，你就找到了聚变发生的确切位置。很简单的逻辑。接着说 EUT，如果太阳是被外部电极驱动的话，我们将不会发现太阳光球区表层和日冕区之间非常巨大的温差。它们之间的温度将不会差太多。这是一个由我做实验，进而得出的简单逻辑。所以，如果你声称太阳是被外部电极驱动的话，你必须解释为什么光球区表层温度只有5000 开尔文，而日冕区却高达 200 万开尔文。事实上，你必须提供一个太阳外热内冷的合理机制。这个机制我不能证明，但我确实有一些想法，我将会在接下来的视频中阐述我的这个观点。内容太多，以至在这里不能讲的太多。

My thinking that the Sun cannot be externally powered is also backed by experimental proof of little or no temperature variance in my experiments, which are indeed externally electrically driven. Therefore one must conclude that NASA et all is incorrect and the current EUT theory is incorrect based on repeatable experiments. Six years of experiments in fact.

我认为太阳不是被外部电极驱动的。这个观点同样是被实验数据支持的，那就是：实验中只有很小或者基本没有温度差异。因此，必须要得出一个结论，那就是：NASA 的电极理论全部是错的并且当前的 EUT 理论也是错误的。他们的错误都是基于可重复的实验证明了的。事实上，我做了六年的实验。

But again I do agree with the concepts of the EUT more than I agree with BH, DM, and DE, which I find no reason to exist and in fact I find zero proof that any of them exist.

但是相比 BH(黑洞),DM(暗物质),DE(暗能量)等理论，我更加赞同 EUT 理论。因为，我发现它们(BH,DM,DE)没理由存在，事实上我没有发现任何证据表明它们存在。

Furthermore. I am a plasma physicist as you can see. I know very well what a Z-pinch is. Please do not make comments that I don't realize I made a Z-pinch. To those who actually worked with Z-pinches a comment like that makes the whole EUT look really bad. What I made is not a Z-pinch at all. NOT AT ALL. Trying to say it does makes you look really really bad. Sorry, but it does. It makes those who really know how a Z-pinch really works pay no attention to anything else you say.I am sorry, but that is how these guys think.

此外，我是一个等离子物理学家，正如你看到的那样。我非常清楚什么是 Z-pinch。请不要发表评论说我没意识到我制作了一个 Z-pinch。对于那些真正工作在Z-pinch 领域的人来说，这样的评论会让整个 EUT 界感到尴尬。我做的这个，绝对不是 Z-pinch！根本不是！试图说这样的话会让你感到非常非常尴尬。对不起，但确实是这样。那些真正懂得 Z-pinch 到底如何工作的人，根本会无视你的评论。对不起，但这些人确实是这么想的。

It would be like me telling you the moon is really made of cheese and then wondering why you won't listen to me. So really research what you believe, for your own sake.

这就好像：我告诉你月球的确是奶酪做的并且我非常疑惑为什么你不这么想。所以，请仔细研究，你认为是对的东西，这也是对你自己负责。

I hope to work with the EU folks in the future and I have been in communication with them. But for now I must stand alone. There are currently some EU statements that are not scientifically backed by proven facts and indeed go against scientific fact. Z-pinchs are one of those statements, as is the externally powered Sun and stars.

我希望在今后和 EU(Electric Universe)界的人一起工作，事实上我已经和他们中的一些人联系上了。但是现在，我必须独自站队。当前 EU 界的某些观点，并没有可靠的事实数据支撑，事实上违反了科学事实。Z-pinch 就是这样的观点，还有就是恒星和太阳是被外部电极驱动的观点。

It is an electric universe and the electricity is generated around the stars. I can prove it. How do you generate electricity here on Earth. You move magnetic fields. This is what these intrinsic bowl shaped magnetic fields do, they cause magnetic fields to move very violently past each other, i.e. MHD, and guess what happens? You get electricity and the hottest points around the Sun are exactly where the greatest magnetic turbulence would take place. This in turn leads to fusion and the fusion provides the extra kick to keep it all going and generating electricity. So these theories account for where the electricity in the universe comes from and it all matches ALL the hard data. I really believe that endless clean power is near. Don't have it all worked out yet, but I do have tech that is based on these theories that is in over twelve countries right now. It works really well and it would not work if my theories were not correct. That technology has been the main focus of my research for the last six years. The AP stuff is just cool because it provides validation of my theories.

这是一个充满电的宇宙并且电被产生出来并围绕着恒星。我能证明它！你是怎么在地球上产生电的呢。移动磁场。这就是这些固有磁场做的事情，它们导致磁场之间猛烈的相互运动，例如：MHD(Magnetohydrodynamics，磁流体)，猜猜会发生什么？你得到了电流并且围绕太阳周围最热的地方正是磁场扰动最厉害的区域。这依次又导致了聚变发生，并且聚变提供了额外的震动来让这一切继续发生并且产生电流。所以，这个理论证明了宇宙中的电从哪里来，并且符合所有的观测数据。我真的相信，无尽的清洁能源正在临近。我们还没有完全做出来，但是我有基于这一理论的科技，可以在 12 个国家立即实现。它工作的非常好，如果我的理论是错的话，它将不会工作。在过去的六年里，我研究的主要内容就是这项科技。原子物理界的人士也非常酷，因为它们提供了对我理论的验证实验。

Please carefully considered what you type here. I have. I have patiently waited six years to go public with what I have. That is six years of 80 hours per week. Everything I say is backed by experiments and I have not had one mainstream physics or AP attack on any of my theories that I am aware of. All I have heard is their silence. In fact I have physicists who totally back all I say.

请仔细考虑你写下的每一个字。我耐心的等待了六年后才走到前台来公布我的发现。这是六年的每周 80 小时的工作。我说的每一个字都是有实验做支撑的并且没有任何主流物理界的人士或原子物理界的人士批判我的理论。我所听到的就是那里一片的寂静。事实上，我有一些物理学家朋友，他们完全可以证明我此言不虚。

I know it is very frustrating to have the mainstream be so totally blind to some of the things the EUT calls for, but I am not mainstream and I am not your enemy. I am on your side more than I am on their side. I would suggest all of you take a step back and wait for the rest of my videos and my papers that I am working on as hard as I can. I only seek the truth and that is all. That is what every true scientist does.Just make sure you are seeking for the truth no matter where it leads, and not just trying to convince yourself that all you believe is true. That can be a very dangerous psychological trap that goes by the name of cognitive dissonance. This is the trap that I believe the mainstream has fallen into. I.E. our theories are correct and now we need patches to make our theories work.

我知道主流物理界对于 EUT 界的一些声明完全无视，这非常令人沮丧。但我不是主流界的，所以我不是你们的敌人。我更倾向于站在你们这边，而不是主流界那边。我建议你们退后一步并等待我努力制作和发布的其余视频和论文。我只是在寻找真理，仅仅是这样。这正是每一个真正的科学家做的事情。仅仅确保你在寻找真理，而不管它将导致何种结果，而不是仅仅试图说服自己你认为的就是对的。这会导致一个非常危险的心理陷阱，那就是认知不一致。这就是，我认为的主流物理界目前正陷入的一个陷阱。例如：我们的理论是正确的并且我们只需要对这理论做若干修补就可以了。

My approach is to try and shoot down my own theories and prove them incorrect. This approach has worked really well for me and any mistakes or problems are revealed when I do this. If I cannot prove something, I will not say it as a fact. If I say I believe that means I think that this is correct, but I cannot yet prove it, therefore it could be wrong. I think all of us should be like that, even NASA, even you, even me.

我的研究方法是试图证明自己的理论是错误的。这个研究方法对我非常合适，并且任何错误或疑问会被呈现出来当我做它的时候。如果我不能证明一些事情，我不会把它当作一个事实来说。如果我说“我相信”，那意味着：我认为它是对的，但是我还没有验证它，因此它可能会错。我认为我们大家应该会喜欢这样的，甚至是 NASA，甚至是你，甚至是我。

I hope you all understand where I am coming from.

我希望，你们都知道我来自哪里了。

Cheers to all,
Dave

原帖地址：http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9221&start=45

David is well

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